Posts Tagged ‘Fantastic Four’

A lot of websites are calling this confirmed but if you read the original article by The Hollywood Reporter, they say:

Sources tell THR that the studio is making deals with Miles Teller, Kate Mara, Michael B. Jordan and Jamie Bell to star in the project that reboots the Marvel superheroes.

This is not an official announcement nor is THR saying that it’s been confirmed and they are breaking the news. That being said, THR is a very reputable source which means we shouldn’t be terribly surprised if we get an official confirmation out of FOX once all the contracts have been settled.

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via Screenrant

Simon Kinberg To Help Build ‘X-Men’ & ‘Fantastic Four’ Franchises

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X Men Fantastic Four Universes Simon Kinberg To Help Build X Men & Fantastic Four Franchises

In the midst of one of the busiest weeks of superhero movie news ever, X-Men: Days of Future Past director Bryan Singer surprised everyone yesterday when namedropping another X-Men film for 2016, one that would include one of the greatest villains from the comics in Apocalypse. It was strange for several reasons; there were no reports or leaks that such a project was in the works and it didn’t come from Twentieth Century Fox directly.

We had heard however that Singer and co-writer Simon Kinberg at least had ideas for what would go next, what Days of Future Past could build towards, and now we know. It was Kinberg after all, who pitched the Days of Future Past story idea to then-director Matthew Vaughn early on as a way to not only bring back the First Class cast but to bring back faces from the original X-Men trilogy – something the studio very much wanted. As we know now, there are even bigger plans in the works, and Kinberg will have a major role to play in the future of the franchise.

THR was given the scoop on Kinberg’s newly signed deal with Twentieth Century Fox. It’s a three-year first-look contract where he will help develop and oversee Fox’s own Marvel cinematic universe. He’s currently not only writing and producing X-Men: Days of Future Past, but he’s also producing the studio’s Fantastic Four reboot alongside Matthew Vaughn (also heavily involved with the X-films), a project that consultant and comics writer Mark Millar that says will lead to an eventual crossover.

 ”I have a lot of ideas on how to built those brands and do what everybody is thinking of these days: Be like Marvel. I want to be able to build stories over multiple movies.”

X Men Apocalypse Movie 2016 Simon Kinberg To Help Build X Men & Fantastic Four Franchises

Singer’s X-Men: Apocalypse shocker yesterday is undoubtedly part of this (a continuing story for Days of Future Past), and the timing of that announcement goes hand-in-hand with Kinberg’s official involvement. By all accounts, Fox is aiming to take advantage of the Marvel intellectual properties they still own the rights too (they lost Daredevil last year) and it’s possible we’ll finally see them not only release an X-Men or FF film annually, but move to two pictures per year.

  • 2014: X-Men: Days of Future Past
  • 2015: Fantastic Four
  • 2016: X-Men: Apocalypse

Another comic book insider in Deadpool creator Rob Liefeld confirmed this week that Jeff Wadlow’s (Kick-Ass 2screenplay for an X-Force film is complete. Wadlow was tapped to write that for Fox after pitching the idea for more team-based movies. There’s also the highly praised finished script for Deadpool by Rhett Reese and Paul Wernick, another project that’s just waiting for the Fox greenlight. And we just found out in recent weeks that The Wolverine director James Mangold and franchise star Hugh Jackman are working on a story for Wolverine 3.

So, where do these all fit in? They don’t unless Fox pushes production to two films per year, something Marvel Studios has built themselves up to do and something Warner Bros. is reportedly considering for some of their characters as well. According to Liefeld, who’s been tweeting about X-Men characters Deadpool and Cable for years now, it’s possible to see X-Force and a Deadpool spinoff within six months to a year of one another.

If X-Men: Days of Future Past with its pushed up date of May 2014 is a big as Fox hopes it to be (and as good as Hugh Jackman says it is) and they can get close to that billion dollar milestone, expect an onslaught of reports and announcements in the following weeks and months. Days of Future Past might be the most expensive superhero movie ever made and the studio is taking it very seriously and banking on it to relaunch a much larger franchise. That’s why Kinberg (who’s hitting it big these days, also writing a Star Wars spinoff for Disney) is now a part of the Fox-Marvel family for the long haul and why guys like Mark Millar were brought into the fold.

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The Wolverine is now available on home video, X-Men: Days of Future Past hits theaters May 23, 2014. Fantastic Four opens June 19, 2015X-Men: Apocalypse is planned for a 2016 release.

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Michael B. JordanI’ve seen a bunch of stuff recently about the casting of Michael B. Jordan as Johnny Storm in the Fantastic Four reboot. I assume he’s a good actor cause he’s had continued roles in acclaimed shows I don’t watch like The Wire, Friday Night Lights and The Parenthood. He has the handsome, boyish, charming look of the ‘kid brother’ Johnny who is a bit of a goof. But here is the problem… this casting is still a rumor.

Rumors of Jordan being cast as Johnny Storm goes back to May when The Wrap claimed that “Director Josh Trank is considering casting his “Chronicle” star in Fox’s reboot of the superhero franchise.” Nothing was ever confirmed, though The Wrap is a pretty reliable source of information so it’s an easy bet that Trank was likely considering Jordan at the time. But there are hundreds of reasons why that might have fallen through such as schedule conflicts, etc.

Nothing was ever said to have confirmed Jordan’s casting until a few days ago when Schmoes Knows claimed to have the exclusive that yes, Jordan has indeed signed on.

“Through our source within Michael B Jordan’s agency, it’s confirmed that he has, in fact, signed on to appear as the Human Torch.”

Here’s the thing, who the heck is Schmoes Knows? Where is the official confirmation either through said agency, the studio, or even a more reputable source such as The Wrap or Variety or Entertainment Weekly?

Granted, no one is denying it, which looks good for the rumor, but it can take a few days before someone says anything. It’s kinda like the Scarlet Witch casting atm, while it’s ‘very likely’, it’s still not ‘official’. We also haven’t heard anything for the casting of Sue, Reed, Thing or anyone else who could possibly be in the movie. So while it would be cool to see Jordan in the FF reboot, it’s still classified as a rumor for all purposes pretense.

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Via Newsarama

Cover from Marvel mini-series X4
CREDIT: Marvel Comics

Fox just wrapped principle photography on 2014’s X-Men: Days of Future Past this past weekend. So while next up on the studio’s plate will be post-production work and gearing up production for 2015’s Fantastic Four reboot by Chronicle’s Josh Trank, if their Marvel movie consultant Mark Millar has his way, those two things could be very closely related.

In an excerpt from an upcoming longer interview in SFX #239, Millar tells that “without question” he thinks crossover between the X-Men and FF universes (ala the Marvel Cinematic Universe) is in Fox’s future.

“I think you have to see some of these guys showing up in each other’s movies,” he said. “I think the most exciting thing in superhero movies, until The Avengers came along, was when Nick Fury showed up in Iron Man. Even though it was a guy with an eye patch it was really cool – and I expect we will see more of that.”

Next year’s Days of Future Past post-credit scene might be the first opportunity Fox will have to co-opt Marvel Studios’ marketing roadmap, and given The Wolverine’s post-credit baton-passing to Days, staying to the very end of next summer’s X-Men epic would be advisable for FF fans.

And even though Millar has a sentimental attachment to Fox’s first FF movie, the writer was upfront in his assessment of the film and its director, Tim Story.

“These first two movies were not very good but I’m quite sentimental towards them,” Millar responded, asked by SFX what the new film will need to get right. “I took my youngest daughter to see the first one, she was only five when it came out, and she thought it was the best film ever made. At the end, when Johnny Storm says, ‘Flame on!’ for the first time, she thanked me for taking her to see it. So even though it was a crap movie that memory makes me sort-of like it in a strange way.”

“Sam Raimi gave us a great Spider-Man. Christopher Nolan gave us a great Batman. So a brilliant director is probably the most important thing for a great Fantastic Four,” continued Millar. “Tim Story was seen as an odd choice for Fantastic Four but when you have a Josh Trank you know you are in safe hands.”

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mark-miller-empire-onlineWith the success of Avengers, studios started to realize the benefit of having a singular ‘show runner’ as it where to oversee different movies that are all part of the same universe. This makes total sense and I’m all for it. So when Fox said they were putting Mark Miller in charge of their comic book properties I was supportive even though I didn’t know much about him other than I watched the Kick Ass movie.

After the past few months I’ve come to realize that Mark Miller really needs to just stop talking.

Recently he completely ditched the idea of making a Justice League movie.

“I actually think the big problem for them is the characters are just too out of date. The characters were created 75 years ago, even the newest major character was created 68 years ago, so they’re in a really weird time.”

Granted, characters like Wolverine, Rogue and Gambit were created in the 70s, 80s, and 90s (or there abouts if you want to get technical). But the core of the X-Men go back to the 60s. Like there is nothing weird about the time span between the 60s and 90s? Especially when compared to today.

Also, the DC characters have been rebooted several times in the past years in order to make them more ‘current’. Batman especially has shown in the Nolan movies that he is just as modern as any other character and he was created in 1939!

He goes on to say in that same interview:

“The actual logistics of each member of the Justice League is disastrous, and you put them all together and I think you get an excellent way of losing $200 million.”

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Five Main Characters – Lord of the Rings had how many?

Five Justice League members are too much but a group of at least five mutants all with their own equally different powers/backgrounds, not to mention DOFP will include old and young versions of said mutants, is okay?

“On the other hand I though the third film felt crowded, but then Singer is excellent at working with ensemble casts. So with this one [DOFP] I feel it is all fine. I have read the screenplay and it doesn’t feel rushed and it doesn’t feel like it is too many characters.”

So obviously he thinks it can work.

“X-Men in the Nineties was so convoluted in comic-book terms, and Bryan drove a knife through it and make it work [in X-Men 1] and simplified the whole thing.”

So maybe it’s just a 90s thing? Which would be odd since he says that JL won’t work cause it’s so old. Is there like a sweet spot then, a frame of years that only produce good comic book movies? Nope.

Millar then expresses no worries in how the film [Days of Future Past] is being handled, despite the heavy mythology. “I think as long as it’s done right.”

Oh, so not age, just how it’s done? Wouldn’t that apply to Justice League or is it just an X-Men thing? Nope.

“From what I’ve seen [of the Fantastic Four reboot] and from talking to him [director Josh Trank] – he and I have had dinner a couple of times and we talk quite regularly as well – he’s contemporarising it. I think he’s just making it work for the screen – he’s a great storyteller.”

I'm admittedly bad at math but I count more than five here, even if you take out Sabes and Toad.

I’m admittedly bad at math but I count more than five here, even if you take out Sabes and Toad.

So, Justice League is impossible to handle and contemporarize but X-Men and Fantastic Four are okay?

Oh, in the same article he compares FF to Chronicle and Alien… wha? He can make those kinds of comparisons but it’s impossible to do anything ‘new’ or ‘different’ with Justice League?

But really, the crux of his whole ‘the actual logistics just wouldn’t work’ idea is this: You are a paid creative consultant. If you were working for WB it would be your job to make it work, and you would make it work. That is what you are supposed to be doing and what you should be doing for Fox.

Case in point: Sentinels, the big, bulky, fiscally irresponsible, destined to be considered Transformers rip-off’s, purple robots.

Here he talks about them as being ‘cool’.

“I don’t really want to give too much away but the Sentinels are a big feature of this story. They will be cool and this will deliver on all of the teasers.”

Really? So yeah, you can make those robots cool but you can’t figure out how to make Aquaman talk under water? Oh wait, you did.

“Are they gonna talking telepathically?”

Just make sure your actors can emote and can do voice overs and it could work. Or, dunno, take the movie out of the water for most of it? You would think of something cause it’s what you’re paid to do. If, you know, you were being paid by WB, which you’re not, but I’m sure you’d be singing a different tune if you did.

And apparently I’m not the only person who thinks there is something a whole lot dodgy with Miller’s latest comments about WB’s Justice League movie.

Of course, that’s the movie version he’s talking about, as for the comics, well, he knows how he would have done the reboot. Which, yeah, I guess we’ve all had that moment of ‘man, I could do better’, but when you put it with everything else he’s said you can’t help but read it with such an arrogant tone.

Which is made all the more arrogant by this

“I just feel the exciting stuff that’s happening just now is creator owned.”

Umm, that’s kind of the opposite of what is going on with the X-Men and Fantastic Four movies as they are licensed by Fox… you know, the people who are paying you to make sure their movies are good.

But then, Miller’s getting several of his own properties off the ground as movies: Kick-Ass 2, Nemesis, Supercrooks and Superior and Secret Service. Seems like his job as ‘creative consult’ is working out very well for him personally. I’m not gonna begrudge the man getting his comics the film-treatment, but again, with his bashing of everyone else’s works, everything he says is tinted with a hugely arrogant and unattractive tone. Makes you wonder just how much he really cares about the X-Men and FF films.

Especially when he takes credit here and here for The Avengers movie, which, okay, fair enough, he’s happy for them…

“People have suggested we should feel ripped off, but we don’t own these characters. All we did was give them a lick of paint and come up with a story and the visuals. These are Marvel-owned characters and I have my own little empire with Millarworld so I’m genuinely just pleased to see all this on the big screen and wish them nothing but the best with it.”

But that praise is short lived because apparently the Avengers movies aren’t going to go far

“Where I think it’s going to be difficult is once you’ve done that thing of putting all those characters in one film…you know, it’s like having Harry Potter, James Bond and Spider-Man all in one movie. I think what’ll be difficult then is to try and top that because people want to see it get bigger.”

Well, just scrap the X-Men then, cause once you have an ensemble movie that’s it apparently. No one is going to want to see just an individual movie about their favorite super-hero, one of which they might not have realized was awesome until having seen them in Avengers. [note the sarcasm here]

Sorry Hawkeye, Ant-Man and Dr Strange beat you to it.

Sorry Hawkeye, no movie for you! Ant-Man and Dr Strange beat you to it. Story of your life, huh?

Seriously, how many people went back and watched Captain America and Thor after watching Avengers? Does he really think audiences don’t want to see their favorite characters in a more highlighted and individual setting? Tell that to all the Hawkeye fans begging to get him a movie.

Oh, but if you’re X-Men…

“The X-Men feels like a universe by itself; there’s so many characters and so many great potential spin-off characters.”

Basically, what I’m getting from Mark Miller is that only stuff he is involved in can work… everything else can’t?

I am really excited to see The Wolverine. I’m also waiting anxiously for more information onDays of Future Past because I think it could be epic. But every time Mark opens his mouth I suddenly get an overwhelming sense of dread, and not the cool Judge Dredd kind.

So please, Mark Miller, stop talking, especially if all you are going to say is backhanded compliments that are truly just insults.

3/ Third would have to be Dark Knight Rises. Controversial, I know, but I think this might be my favourite of all the Batman movies. It has its problems, especially Nolan’s reluctance to make Batman himself especially interesting, and the pay off with Bane SO anticlimactic after such a brilliant build up. But it’s got so many good moments and was so incredibly ambitious that I think it clobbers Avengers in terms of pure cinema. Avengers was a very fun popcorn movie with a lot of good jokes, but in terms of actual scale and depth I think Dark Knight rises to the top for Summer 2012 for me.

So, TDKR had a major character that was dull and no pay off but that was apparently better than Avengers.

Considering Miller’s role in upcoming comic book movies and major franchises, he really shouldn’t be going around putting down everyone else’s works just to make his look better. I think someone needs to give him a dictionary and open it to the word ‘tacky’… then let the movies speak for themselves.

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CinemaBlend reports Fox has given a release date for the new Fantastic Four reboot. It will hit early, March 6th, 2015, likely attempting to get a jump on Avengers 2 and the Justice league movie.

I will say this… this new Fantastic Four doesn’t have a very high bar to be held against considering the last outing… and the one before that which never actually made it onto the screen.

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Mark Millar has spoken up about his role in the new Fox/Marvel movies. Apparently he’s got a three to four year plan. He also wants to see a world where you watch a Marvel comic based movie and they all feel like the same universe.

I’m a bit wary of this.

I suppose not knowing if this is three or four years is typical as he’s got a lot of future scheduling to get around and the studios can be crazy.

But it’s the “all in a same universe” that has me worried. The X-Men movies do not share the same tone as the Avengers films. The Fantastic Four is much closer to the style of the Avengers, that would work, but the X-Men is more akin to Batman than Captain America. Perhaps he meant it a general thing and not all that literal?

The Bleeding Cool article also pointed out that Millar didn’t have a lot of input on The Wolverine, so how that fits into the grand scheme is yet to be figured out, though it could be related to the supposed Jean Grey cameo.

It’s going to be a very interesting next few years…

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