Posts Tagged ‘Thor: Dark World’

thor the dark world posterThe long/short review: an enjoyable romp with very little substance.

One can definitely tell the change in director between these films as in the first Thor there was a Shakespeare undertone, dry humor and smirking wit along with some masterful turns at character development and story telling. Thor 2 is put together more like an action flick where it’s all about the explosions and one-liners.

Do I like action flicks all about explosions and one-liners? Yes, I enjoyed Avengers, didn’t I. But that was the purpose of that film, to bring together characters who were already individually explored and see them work together. In Avengers, character development, save a few key scenes, is pretty much left to be explored in their individual movies where a more direct focus would serve the characters better. We see this in Iron Man 3 where not only does Tony get his own villain but he battles his personal demons and fears as well. That’s what Thor 2 should have been about, continuing to grow Thor as a character through an actual plot arc rather than the typical action style of laying it all down at the end for a quick wrap up.

This really is an example of how bad it can be to ‘just give the audience more of what they want’ rather than ‘making a movie that their audience will love’.

Here is my breakdown, spoilers ahead.

Thor – I always thought that he got the shorter end of the stick in the first film when it came to character development. His motivations were just a bit more petty and his sudden shift to not being such a douche was too quick and unearned. There isn’t so much of a problem like that in Thor 2 because there is no character development, at all. From the beginning he’s just this guy who is trying to be a good son while pining over the woman he loves. At the end of the film, he’s still trying to be the good son while pining over a woman. The only thing that changes is that he has the guts to tell his dad that he doesn’t want to be king and instead continue to hit things with hammers and love a Midgardian. While the argument can be made that this is indeed character development in that he chooses to accept that he doesn’t want to be king, etc, it feels very lazy and simple. After losing his mother and brother, there isn’t any true thought to how this personally effected him or his decisions. As stated before, there is a quick wrap up at the end to say ‘yep, I haven’t changed, this is what I want to do’ and that’s it.

Jane – I didn’t care much for her in the first film because I thought Portman, who is a great actress, just kinda walked through the role and there was no chemistry between her and Hemsworth. As a character though, she was pretty cool. She was this super smart scientist who was trying to awesome things because she was a scientist trying to do awesome things. In Thor 2, she’s reduced to a woman who has apparently been moping around because Thor never called her back. Sure, she was doing sciencey things, but not because “hey, science!” but because she was looking for Thor. Then when Thor snubbed her, she stopped with the science. Huh? I’m sure it hurt to see him come to Earth in Avengers and not bother to call her or even drop a note, but why the hell did she decide to stop doing science because of this? She was a scientist before Thor, she can continue to be a scientist now. Hell, if she was that mad that he never called her, why isn’t she trying harder to find a way to Asgard just so she can slap him? But nope, her entire reason for doing anything worthwhile in life (or I would assume seeing how dedicated she was in the first film) ceased to be because Thor never called her back. Even at the end of the film, she’s moping because he hasn’t come back in two days. And for a lot of the film, she’s just standing there doing nothing because the focus is on Thor/Loki (which I’ll get to in a minute) and she’s almost forgotten about in many scenes. She does have a few moments of her being a freaking scientist and thinking as such, but it’s all framed by the fact that she now exists solely as a love interest to Thor. (But at least we were spared any horrible cat-fighting between her and Sif.)

Loki – He stole the show in the first movie where he got some perfected paced and designed character development,  and in Thor 2, pretty much every awesome moment can be attributed to him. He was much more jokey in this film, spilling out one-liners like the class clown who is hiding just how sad he is in. He also had a stronger reaction to Frigga’s death. It puts him in a lot of pain, pain he even tries to hide from Thor through illusions. But, much like Thor, there is no development. Loki is stuck, he’s played his hand as the ‘would be king’ who is rightly pissed about his parentage issue… and he continues to do so because he believes he needs to save face. Then he fakes his death (which, let’s be honest, we all saw coming) and somehow takes Odin’s place (which, okay, that was an awesome twist). There is no development, he’s still the same person he was at the beginning of the film, just in a different place. Throughout the film, though it is very hilarious, he’s just there to crack one-liners and play off Thor. It’s the few moments he’s not doing this that he truly saves this film.

Thor/Loki – The Thor/Loki dynamic is an interesting one and there are a lot of fans both of this as a non-romantic pairing and as a romantic pairing. Loki is also a fan favorite with a movement to get him his own movie. This is where the ‘giving fans more of what they want’ turns sour because this film is pretty much just two hours of Loki and Thor banter, sometimes serious, often for laughs. You know that moment in Avengers where Thor says “listen well brother,” gets knocked down by Iron Man, and Loki goes “I’m listening”… yeah, imagine that for two hours. While yes, it’s really funny and I laughed a lot, I did often find myself going “where is Jane?” or “what about the Elves?” Literally, Jane disappears from view for a good ten minutes at two different times just so that Thor and Loki can banter with each other. It’s not like she’s not around, she’s literally in the same ten square feet radius, but is removed from frame and nearly forgotten about. As much as the Thor/Loki stuff can be fun or even emotionally dramatic, here is was played not like Shakespeare, but like Michael Bay.

Frigga – What the heck? Thor takes repeated poundings from the Hulk. Loki gets stabbed in the chest (maybe, sorta, not sure where the illusion started there). But Frigga gets a dagger in her and dies almost instantly? Gah! I know she was going to die but did they have to make it so easy? Esp after she put the smack down on the Dark Elf? This part pissed me off the most… but mostly cause Frigga is awesome and played by an underrated but also awesome actress. I really hope a future movie is Loki going to Valhalla to get her back… I really do… I any case, she was both soft mother and badass warrior and all in a very small space of time. Writers, take note.

Odin – Worst. Father. Ever. But what else is new? The fact that he was actually being reasonable there at the end should have been our first clue that he wasn’t actually himself.

Darcy – Almost makes up for Jane. She’s sassy, knows her level of intelligence in comparison to Jane, and where she falls in the hierarchy of the film, and she owns it.

Erik – The only character that truly seemed to have any kind of real development from the Avengers film. Basically, after what Loki did to him, and with him being just a person and not a trained S.H.I.E.L.D. agent, he’s pretty much off his rocker. This is totally legit and I applaud that they actually went there and showed that everything is not all happy smiles after events like what happened in Avengers.

Malekith – Our villain of the weekmovie. Eccelston is a great actor but he, like many others in this film, has little to work with. Again, he’s just a device to allow for the Thor/Loki banter.

Overall – It was a fun romp of a film but it was more of a filler episode than a film in its own right. I laughed, I smiled, I got pissed at a character death, but in the end I felt like I hadn’t actually gained anything from the experience regarding the characters. I’ve heard that a good 20-ish minutes where cut and that truely could have made all the difference in giving us more of the depth we needed rather than the silly one-liners.

In conclusion: Was it enjoyable? Yes. Was it disappointing? Yes

Funny how that works out sometimes.

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Thor: The Dark World: Prelude #1Doing comic book tie-ins are actually a really good idea, as long as they are done well. They’re basically all the extra scenes that got cut out of the movie because they really weren’t needed but would have been nice to see.

That’s pretty much what comprises this particular tie-in.

We know Thor gets to Earth using dark magic and Jane is shipped off to Norway, but here we see it happen.

The best part is the little things, such as Frigga being the one to see that Loki is still alive. I really hope she gets some face time with Loki in Dark World because even if Odin is suspect, she always treated him as her son.

As for Thor himself, he learned that every action has consequences… and this is definitely one of those moments where the bigger picture is about to come crashing down on him.

Just… couldn’t they have done a better cover?

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CinemaBlend – Joss Whedon Won’t Let The Villain Overshadow The Heroes In The Avengers 2 – “I’m very excited about the villain, and have a lot to say about him. But if you watch my shows, the one thing I’ve never been very good at is guest stars, because I’ve always been interested in the ensemble. With The Avengers, I’m still most fascinated by them.”

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ComicBookMovie – Hugh Jackman Reveals His  Enthusiasm For An AVENGERS And X-MEN Movie Crossover –  “I actually just asked the other day, I said, ‘I don’t know what the legal  situation is, but why don’t these companies come together? Why isn’t it  possible?’ Because personally, I would love to mix it up with Robert Downey Jr.  and Iron Man and kick his ass. It’d be great.”

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ComicBookMovie – Jaimie Alexander Talks THOR: THE  DARK WORLD Trailer, Characters And WONDER WOMAN

CinemaBlend – Marvel’s President Hopes Guardians Looks Nothing Like Green Lantern – I think we all hope that…

Newsarama – Kevin Feige Confirms DAREDEVIL Rights at Marvel Studios

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CinemaBlend – Amazing Superheroes Designed By Little Girls Cosplaying

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Thor: The Dark World has released its first trailer which can be seen on youtube here.

Now, the big thing that I know a lot of people are talking about is Loki, specifically his hair.

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Let’s look past that for a moment and take in the bigger picture. In mimic to Avengers, Loki is in a prison cell and giving a ‘how desperate are you’ speech, only this time he refers to himself rather than the Avengers. He views asking for help, any help, as a sign of weakness and a character flaw to be exploited.

Thor also says “when you betray me, I will kill you”, note the when… now, is this in response to something Loki says such as ‘You know I’ll betray you’ or he is just coming out and saying that Loki is completely irredeemable at this point and is going to betray him no matter what? I really hope it’s the former.

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It also looks like Jane is being turned into a ‘damsel in distress’ in this movie which is annoying. But not nearly as annoying as the hint of a possible love triangle in this as well. When Jane is talking about ‘being from two different worlds’ which is how a lot of Dear John speeches start, Sif gets a nice glowy shot of her not looking very happy. Seriously, if these two characters are reduced to two women fighting over Thor in Dark World I’m going to be thoroughly annoyed and disappointed.

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Frigga, on the other hand, looks ready to take everyone down. Rene Russo is a very underestimated actress in my opinion and I love that there is, hopefully, expansion on her character in this. Frigga is the freaking Queen of Asgard, not a title she could hold by being meek in any way. I would also like to see what her relationship with Loki is right now. She said she always saw him as a son to her… but after all he has done?

Overall, looks very on par with the first movie though a little darker to go with the title I suppose. Can’t wait to see more trailers and sneaks as we get closer to it’s November 8th release date.

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ComicBookMovie – FAN MADE: THOR’s Jaimie  Alexander As WONDER WOMAN

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ComicBookMovie – Bryan Singer Says Mark Millar Is  “Not Involved” With X-MEN: DOFP
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“I dunno, I mean Franco did his thing, I’ll do my  thing.”

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