Posts Tagged ‘Quicksilver’

Head Canon: American Pyro is Magneto’s Grandson

Posted in News and Editorials, tagged , , , , on May 24, 2013| 2 Comments »

I posted this on tumblr but I’m going to put it here too. I had a head canon moment for the X-Men films.

X2 Magneto and PyroHead Canon: American Pyro is Magneto’s Grandson

Ever since I ran across it in the X-Men: Evolution fandom, Jonda (aka John & Wanda aka Pyro & Scarlet Witch) is my favorite non-canon OTP. With the news that Quicksilver (and by default Scarlet Witch) will be in X-Men: Days of Future Past, it meant that any ideas of a Jonda happening in the movies was null and void.

Then it clicked. Evan Peters is 26 and will be playing a character in 1973. Likely Quicksilver will be younger than this (actors often play younger characters) and it makes sense otherwise Magento would be really young when he started having kids. So let’s say, conservatively, Quicksilver and Wanda are 22 in 1973. Wanda then meets Aussie Pyro (St. John) who’s of a similar age. Jonda ensues and they have a kid.

Aaron Stanford who played American Pyro (John) in X2/X3 was born in 1976, three years after DOFP will take place. But, again, actors usually play younger roles. If John was 16 in X1 then he was born in 1984 (Wanda would be 33, still could have a baby). But John could be a few years older, or Wanda a few younger. In any case, you can make the ages line up where John is realistically the child of Wanda and St. John.

But there’s more… It’s insinutated that John had a crappy childhood, maybe he grew up in foster care? In canon, Wanda believed her children died so for something similar to happen to John (named for his dad) is legit. And if John is in American foster care at a young age he could lose any trace of accent and sound pure-blood American.

Roll X2, when John bugs Magneto he notices John looks a lot like either St. John or Wanda (the twins don’t exactly look alike in the comics) and discovers John has the same name, same mutant-name, and same power as St. John. At that moment he knows this is his grandson. That’s why Magneto then says:

“You are a god among insects. Never Let anyone tell you different.”

He’s saying this to his own grandson! How epic and deep does this moment then become?

Of course Magneto can’t share that information on the plane at that time. John goes with Magneto who later tells him the truth of his parentage and John dyes his hair (X3) to be more like his father. In X3, there really isn’t a chance to explore this so it never comes up on camera.

Head Canon: Accepted. (until DOFP comes out and it may need adjusting)

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DOFP: Quicksilver

Posted in News and Editorials, tagged , , , on May 23, 2013| 5 Comments »

Well, doesn’t this just throw us for a loop…

https://twitter.com/BryanSinger/status/337643722953080832

You read correctly, Pietro Maximoff, aka Quicksilver, is going to be in Days of Future Past…

First off, this comes only days after it’s announced that the Maximoff twins will be in Avengers 2. Before we shout ‘rip-off’ to the Fox camp, we have to remember a few things:

DOFP is already in production. Likely Quicksilver was already planned or else they would literally be making last minute changes to the script. Which yeah, is completely plausible, but there is auditions and contract negotiations before an actor is even signed on so could they really have done all that in such a short space of time (I guess they could have started back when Whedon hinted at the twins but still). Plus, the casting board Singer showed us had blank spots, he could have easily been one of them. So I’m willing to give Singer the benefit of the doubt on this.

It will all come down to how the character plays on screen… will his role be substantial or an obvious last minute shoe in?

Evan PetersNow, going to the character himself, what can we conclude? Well, Bryan says that ‘he was a really fast kid’ and the actor, Evan Peters, is 26 years old (which he could easily pass for younger though not a teenager). So Pietro was likely born somewhere between 1947 to 1953. Going with canon, and the fact there is no mention or thought by Mags about having a son in First Class (you think Xavier would use Pietro in his quest to keep Magneto from heading off the deep end), Mags is not going to know Pietro exists so he’ll have no clue he’s his son when they meet (or at least be surprised).

There is a going to be a fine line here because a decent portion of the audience will know Pietro is Mags son, though there will be some in the dark. They can’t drag this part out too much, at least audience wise, cause it will get old real quick. They could keep Mags in the dark the whole film though, as long as the audience is aware of what’s going on.

Speaking of parentage, will Magda still be the mother or will they change that? And will Anya, Mag’s first born with Magda, exist? Anya’s death triggered an epic PTSD moment in Magneto and led him straight down the path of super-villain. Could we get a flashback in DOFP of this moment? It wouldn’t take much time and would explain where Magneto was all that time between WW2 and the Cold War. It will also go a long way towards any type of redemption that they might try to play against future Magneto, assuming he’s not working against Xavier in the future.

As for what Pietro will be doing, will it be a ‘like father/like son’ trope? Will Pietro start off working with Magneto, as is canon, then switch sides? Though where is he in the later X-Films? Could he just go neutral since he can’t go to the Avengers? Or maybe he goes and works for the Non-Avenging government? Like most things in this film, they could play it really well… or really bad…

And last but certainly not least… what about Wanda? Will Pietro be an ‘only child’ or his twin simply not in the film? There was no double gap on the casting board, but then he could have done that on purpose or Wanda may just have a smaller role as the father/son aspect could be played up. Hopefully she a reveal they are holding on to for later. (and could we get an Australian Pyro in the film, you know, maybe a relative of the X-films American Pyro (maybe he was named for his great uncle?) and then we can get some Jonda going? yeah, I know, I’m incorrigible).

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Avengers 2: Maximoff Twins confirmed

Posted in News and Editorials, tagged , , on May 19, 2013| 2 Comments »

Maximoff TwinsIGN has the scoop from Whedon himself, Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver will be in Avengers 2.

“You know, they had a rough beginning. They’re interesting to me because they sort of represent the part of the world that wouldn’t necessarily agree with The Avengers. So they’re not there to make things easier. I’m not putting any characters in the movie that will make things easier.”

To me this reads that, as I earlier suggested, and what is canon, these two will start out as villains. He talks about their rough beginning (which can allude to their being orphaned and growing up gypsies or to the fact they started out as villains in the Brotherhood), and that they represent people who wouldn’t necessarily agree with The Avengers and won’t make it easier for them (which means they could be villains in the sense that at first they don’t work with the Avengers, but against them, just perhaps not for truly villainess reasons).

Upon some consideration about the twin’s back stories, seeing as they can’t be mutants due to the licensing issues, Whedon could completely ignore most of their background, as they do Black Widow and Hawkeye in Avengers. These twins are simply two people who have amazing abilities with a general blanket statement “this is magic/tech/whatever” and be done with it. They don’t have to go into their parentage or even being raised by gypsies or anything, or, again, just a quick statement to the fact such like BW’s “I’m Russian, or I was” moment. In a movie that will be full of heroes and villains, they don’t have a lot of time and they can probably get away with only some minor background, especially if the twins might be utilized in the Dr Strange movie (my conjecture).

Though, in reality, due to the licensing, I doubt we’ll ever get an origin story for them or their own movie, which kinda sucks but at least they aren’t being completely ignored.

Anyway, at the moment, things are looking good… but please can news outlets stop using the Ultimate’s version of the twins for their stories? This isn’t Game of Thrones people…

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Avengers 2: The Maximoff Twins

Posted in News and Editorials, tagged , , on May 10, 2013| 8 Comments »

The Maximoff Twins: Scarlet Witch and QuicksilverAt the moment, we have fairly good reason to believe that Wanda and Pietro Maximoff, aka Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, will be in Avengers 2. Let’s hope they don’t get dropped from the script any time between now and filming.

Now, according to this article from SuperHeroHype, the siblings are going to get a bit of an overhaul. Why? Because the twins are stuck in limbo. They mostly belong under the Avengers title but they are mutants and the children of Magneto himself… so they could be used by Disney or Fox so long as the respective connections to Avengers or X-Men are ignored.

So, yeah, having the Maximoff’s not be mutants makes sense from a legal perspective. Disney doesn’t want to step on Fox’s toes regarding the licensing and Disney also probably doesn’t want to open the door to let Fox milk off their recent success.

Then what could our twins be? Lots of options. Experiments gone wrong. Augmented humans. Or down-right pure magic. Since Disney’s MCU isn’t taking itself nearly as hard-core serious, i.e. everything doesn’t have to be realistic and explainable, giving the twins Magic, whether inherent or learned, is their best bet. It gives them a reason to be ‘super’ without being ‘mutants’ and gives them connections to Dr Strange who is getting his own movie and has a connection to Wanda as a teacher of the magic arts.

Now that I think about it, they could treat magic like it’s treated in The Sorcerer’s Apprentice, it’s basically a really high understanding of physics. Can you imagine Bruce and Tony trying to figure that one out? Oh… the comedic value alone…

What about their history?

DRSTR60_OpeningThe same SuperHeroHype article mentions that Disney is basically looking for 20-somethings for the twins. This makes sense for the legal reasons I mentioned. Also, if they are Mags kids and he lived through the Holocaust as a pre-teen then they’d be in their late 40s (at best, like if Mags had them when he was much older). So basically making the twins younger avoids a paradox and also steers them away from the licensing issue (though hopefully Whedon will at the very least just not mention their father, or say they were adopted, etc, to keep that little hint of something in there, rather than giving them a father who isn’t Max, erm, Erik).

The twins also joined the Avengers when they were relatively young, so it does fit their profile for them to do so in the MCU.

But the big thing is, if Disney wants to keep the Avengers going they need fresh ‘young blood’  who can be tied down to several future films. While I’m sure Dr Strange will be an older-ish character, anyone else they bring in, like Ant-Man and Wasp, will likely also be in the 20-something club as well.

Okay, there is also talk in that article that the twins are going to be British, rather than Eastern European. This could radically change their characters. One of the staples of the twin’s backgrounds is that they are gypsies (Romani) from Transia, a fictional country next to Romania. Thing is, Eastern European Romani are not like the gypsies everyone thinks of as not all gypsies are the same. For starters, in Eastern Europe they are predominately Muslim. If they want to make the Maximoff’s legit Eastern European Romani then they have to make them Muslim which I think would actually be really awesome, but, I fear that, for the sake of not wanting to offend anyone, they will make them British gypsies which are mostly Catholic/Protestant. That way they don’t have to bring up religious beliefs at all.

This of course assumes that they even keep the gypsy background. They could, again, as not to offend anyone, make them boring old British people from Croydon (wherever that is).

But how important is it that they are gypsies? Not being an avid Avenger’s reader, I’ve never seen it addressed in the comics I have read, and it is just part of their characters ‘mystic quality’, at least Wanda’s. That’s the thing though, if they are going to be magic users then being gypsies would definitely be a way to kinda cement their individuality. If they are just augmented humans, then I doubt anyone other than the fans would even notice their lack of Romani heritage.

I do like the hint that they are looking for “Euro” and “edgy”… the “edgy” part actually. The twins did try a stint at being bad guys at first but decided against that pretty quick. So it’s possible that they could actually be the sub-villians in Avengers 2 and somewhere in there turn good. Or maybe they are petty-criminals in the beginning who are recruited by Fury early on (or are simply just new recruits but that would be boring). This could all lead into Wanda perhaps being in the Dr Strange movie as a tie-in.

X-Men Evolution - Wana MaximoffLastly, the clothes. Yeah, the red corset and pink leggings are way to much even for the MCU. They should take a cue from X-Men: Evolution and give Wanda normal (but well-tailored) clothes and a red leather jacket. As for Pietro, anything would work, really, though I’m fond of giving him a silver racing-jacket in my fan fics.

Well, that’s all I have to say at the moment, we don’t really know a heck of a lot beyond some words thrown around and that’s too little to be able to really gain a love it/hate it opinion. Also, in the next six months Disney/Whedon could decide to drop them from the cast list. I hope they don’t though because these two could really have some fun on screen.

Oh, let the fan casting begin…

(though I’d like to note the hilarity of the fact that a great Pietro would be a young Michael Fassbender…)

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