Posts Tagged ‘Scarlet Witch’

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I don’t mean to pick on the Uncanny Avengers.
It just sorta keeps happening.

Good or evil, it’s generally not the best idea to have Mystique on your team.
Don’t worry, Sam’ll be fine. It’ll take a lot more than a knife to the chest to take an X-Men down. Much more than that to keep one down.
Kidding, you can’t keep an X-Man down.

Now we have to figure out who is slipping those pills to the rest of the team.
I stopped reading this book because it was starting to feel like all of the characters were having a “who’s the least likable” contest and everyone was winning.

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All-New X-Men #12 cover artworkOnce again, never trust the cover of a comic book, they lie to you… blatantly.

Havok and young-Scott do meet up and it’s actually kind of touching. Scott doesn’t realize his brother is alive (though why no one told him in all this time or he didn’t hear his brother’s M-speech I have no idea), so it’s a really great reunion where, as Cap puts it, Havok gets to see Scott ‘at his best’. Unfortunately we don’t get a lot of character time here as we should, and that’s because Jean attacks Wanda.

Jean, who promised she wouldn’t go poking into other’s minds, gets a look into Wanda’s mind and sees House of M and the most crippling words ever uttered in an X-Men comic: ‘No More Mutants’. Again, why have these kids not heard of this yet? You think they would grab a history book or go on this new fangled thing called Wikipedia?

Anyway, the old team already see Wanda as a bad guy cause last they saw of her she was in the Brotherhood (they must not met Rogue yet), so it’s natural they would be a bit wary of her. For Jean to see the House of M events from Wanda’s own mind because she was apparently ‘screaming it’, you can kinda understand Jean’s reactions, even if it was played up a bit much. But what we really need to take from this issue is two things:

  • Wanda was forgiven for ‘going insane’ and nearly destroying mutant kind. How does this parallel with Cyclops? People would argue that while Wanda was literally ‘insane’ over the loss of her child, Cyclops had a lot more control over his facilities, esp in how he treated things afterwards by going on his little Revolution kick. What I want is an issue that is nothing but Wanda and old Scott having a little chat…
  • Wanda was ‘screaming’ the event in her mind. Obviously she is very much haunted by what she did. Her children died (and though they ‘came back’ she didn’t get to raise them). Her husband left her after she used him, killed him and brought him back (while insane). She has to believe that almost no one trusts her any more, even if they say they do. And this trust issue is dealt with organically.

The sad part is that this is all great stuff… but in the wrong comic. Remender will ignore all of this for his tripe in Uncanny Avengers.

Other high points: Mystique is up to something, as always. Lady Mastermind isn’t stupid. Creed kinda is but we knew that already.

And as was pointed out by greatrhodeybutt on tumblr:      

and it’s real funny how the idea of the uncanny avengers is mutant/humans together. uniting mutants and humans.  uniting avengers and x-men.

and cap is throwing lines around like “you’re an avenger. i trust you.  but these x-men”

THANKS CAP

Yeah… pretty much that.

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I posted this on tumblr but I’m going to put it here too. I had a head canon moment for the X-Men films.

X2 Magneto and PyroHead Canon: American Pyro is Magneto’s Grandson

Ever since I ran across it in the X-Men: Evolution fandom, Jonda (aka John & Wanda aka Pyro & Scarlet Witch) is my favorite non-canon OTP. With the news that Quicksilver (and by default Scarlet Witch) will be in X-Men: Days of Future Past, it meant that any ideas of a Jonda happening in the movies was null and void.

Then it clicked. Evan Peters is 26 and will be playing a character in 1973. Likely Quicksilver will be younger than this (actors often play younger characters) and it makes sense otherwise Magento would be really young when he started having kids. So let’s say, conservatively, Quicksilver and Wanda are 22 in 1973. Wanda then meets Aussie Pyro (St. John) who’s of a similar age. Jonda ensues and they have a kid.

Aaron Stanford who played American Pyro (John) in X2/X3 was born in 1976, three years after DOFP will take place. But, again, actors usually play younger roles. If John was 16 in X1 then he was born in 1984 (Wanda would be 33, still could have a baby). But John could be a few years older, or Wanda a few younger. In any case, you can make the ages line up where John is realistically the child of Wanda and St. John.

But there’s more… It’s insinutated that John had a crappy childhood, maybe he grew up in foster care? In canon, Wanda believed her children died so for something similar to happen to John (named for his dad) is legit. And if John is in American foster care at a young age he could lose any trace of accent and sound pure-blood American.

Roll X2, when John bugs Magneto he notices John looks a lot like either St. John or Wanda (the twins don’t exactly look alike in the comics) and discovers John has the same name, same mutant-name, and same power as St. John. At that moment he knows this is his grandson. That’s why Magneto then says:

“You are a god among insects. Never Let anyone tell you different.”

He’s saying this to his own grandson! How epic and deep does this moment then become?

Of course Magneto can’t share that information on the plane at that time. John goes with Magneto who later tells him the truth of his parentage and John dyes his hair (X3) to be more like his father. In X3, there really isn’t a chance to explore this so it never comes up on camera.

Head Canon: Accepted. (until DOFP comes out and it may need adjusting)

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Maximoff TwinsIGN has the scoop from Whedon himself, Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver will be in Avengers 2.

“You know, they had a rough beginning. They’re interesting to me because they sort of represent the part of the world that wouldn’t necessarily agree with The Avengers. So they’re not there to make things easier. I’m not putting any characters in the movie that will make things easier.”

To me this reads that, as I earlier suggested, and what is canon, these two will start out as villains. He talks about their rough beginning (which can allude to their being orphaned and growing up gypsies or to the fact they started out as villains in the Brotherhood), and that they represent people who wouldn’t necessarily agree with The Avengers and won’t make it easier for them (which means they could be villains in the sense that at first they don’t work with the Avengers, but against them, just perhaps not for truly villainess reasons).

Upon some consideration about the twin’s back stories, seeing as they can’t be mutants due to the licensing issues, Whedon could completely ignore most of their background, as they do Black Widow and Hawkeye in Avengers. These twins are simply two people who have amazing abilities with a general blanket statement “this is magic/tech/whatever” and be done with it. They don’t have to go into their parentage or even being raised by gypsies or anything, or, again, just a quick statement to the fact such like BW’s “I’m Russian, or I was” moment. In a movie that will be full of heroes and villains, they don’t have a lot of time and they can probably get away with only some minor background, especially if the twins might be utilized in the Dr Strange movie (my conjecture).

Though, in reality, due to the licensing, I doubt we’ll ever get an origin story for them or their own movie, which kinda sucks but at least they aren’t being completely ignored.

Anyway, at the moment, things are looking good… but please can news outlets stop using the Ultimate’s version of the twins for their stories? This isn’t Game of Thrones people…

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The Maximoff Twins: Scarlet Witch and QuicksilverAt the moment, we have fairly good reason to believe that Wanda and Pietro Maximoff, aka Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, will be in Avengers 2. Let’s hope they don’t get dropped from the script any time between now and filming.

Now, according to this article from SuperHeroHype, the siblings are going to get a bit of an overhaul. Why? Because the twins are stuck in limbo. They mostly belong under the Avengers title but they are mutants and the children of Magneto himself… so they could be used by Disney or Fox so long as the respective connections to Avengers or X-Men are ignored.

So, yeah, having the Maximoff’s not be mutants makes sense from a legal perspective. Disney doesn’t want to step on Fox’s toes regarding the licensing and Disney also probably doesn’t want to open the door to let Fox milk off their recent success.

Then what could our twins be? Lots of options. Experiments gone wrong. Augmented humans. Or down-right pure magic. Since Disney’s MCU isn’t taking itself nearly as hard-core serious, i.e. everything doesn’t have to be realistic and explainable, giving the twins Magic, whether inherent or learned, is their best bet. It gives them a reason to be ‘super’ without being ‘mutants’ and gives them connections to Dr Strange who is getting his own movie and has a connection to Wanda as a teacher of the magic arts.

Now that I think about it, they could treat magic like it’s treated in The Sorcerer’s Apprentice, it’s basically a really high understanding of physics. Can you imagine Bruce and Tony trying to figure that one out? Oh… the comedic value alone…

What about their history?

DRSTR60_OpeningThe same SuperHeroHype article mentions that Disney is basically looking for 20-somethings for the twins. This makes sense for the legal reasons I mentioned. Also, if they are Mags kids and he lived through the Holocaust as a pre-teen then they’d be in their late 40s (at best, like if Mags had them when he was much older). So basically making the twins younger avoids a paradox and also steers them away from the licensing issue (though hopefully Whedon will at the very least just not mention their father, or say they were adopted, etc, to keep that little hint of something in there, rather than giving them a father who isn’t Max, erm, Erik).

The twins also joined the Avengers when they were relatively young, so it does fit their profile for them to do so in the MCU.

But the big thing is, if Disney wants to keep the Avengers going they need fresh ‘young blood’  who can be tied down to several future films. While I’m sure Dr Strange will be an older-ish character, anyone else they bring in, like Ant-Man and Wasp, will likely also be in the 20-something club as well.

Okay, there is also talk in that article that the twins are going to be British, rather than Eastern European. This could radically change their characters. One of the staples of the twin’s backgrounds is that they are gypsies (Romani) from Transia, a fictional country next to Romania. Thing is, Eastern European Romani are not like the gypsies everyone thinks of as not all gypsies are the same. For starters, in Eastern Europe they are predominately Muslim. If they want to make the Maximoff’s legit Eastern European Romani then they have to make them Muslim which I think would actually be really awesome, but, I fear that, for the sake of not wanting to offend anyone, they will make them British gypsies which are mostly Catholic/Protestant. That way they don’t have to bring up religious beliefs at all.

This of course assumes that they even keep the gypsy background. They could, again, as not to offend anyone, make them boring old British people from Croydon (wherever that is).

But how important is it that they are gypsies? Not being an avid Avenger’s reader, I’ve never seen it addressed in the comics I have read, and it is just part of their characters ‘mystic quality’, at least Wanda’s. That’s the thing though, if they are going to be magic users then being gypsies would definitely be a way to kinda cement their individuality. If they are just augmented humans, then I doubt anyone other than the fans would even notice their lack of Romani heritage.

I do like the hint that they are looking for “Euro” and “edgy”… the “edgy” part actually. The twins did try a stint at being bad guys at first but decided against that pretty quick. So it’s possible that they could actually be the sub-villians in Avengers 2 and somewhere in there turn good. Or maybe they are petty-criminals in the beginning who are recruited by Fury early on (or are simply just new recruits but that would be boring). This could all lead into Wanda perhaps being in the Dr Strange movie as a tie-in.

X-Men Evolution - Wana MaximoffLastly, the clothes. Yeah, the red corset and pink leggings are way to much even for the MCU. They should take a cue from X-Men: Evolution and give Wanda normal (but well-tailored) clothes and a red leather jacket. As for Pietro, anything would work, really, though I’m fond of giving him a silver racing-jacket in my fan fics.

Well, that’s all I have to say at the moment, we don’t really know a heck of a lot beyond some words thrown around and that’s too little to be able to really gain a love it/hate it opinion. Also, in the next six months Disney/Whedon could decide to drop them from the cast list. I hope they don’t though because these two could really have some fun on screen.

Oh, let the fan casting begin…

(though I’d like to note the hilarity of the fact that a great Pietro would be a young Michael Fassbender…)

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Uncanny Avengers #1

Uncanny Avengers #1

Review: Uncanny Avengers #1

Normally I don’t read Avengers titles (I’ve got enough on my plate trying to keep up with the X-Men) but Uncanny Avengers has Rogue and that’s all I needed to hear.

Overall, a great start to the series. We got a download on where everyone is while still leaving enough open to make things interesting. All the interactions were good. Rogue and Wanda was good, I would expect Rogue to be a little more understanding though, but it was the day of the funeral and emotions do run a bit higher.

Love Wanda’s new outfit, but mostly because I have PM’s which date to before we got any of the concept art for Uncanny Avengers which have me putting Wanda into a red leather jacket when she appears later in season one. I came up with the idea quite some time ago but I can only date it to that PM, what can I say, the idea just fits her, you know?

Not sure what’s going on with Red Skull, that ending was a bit out of left field and I’m kinda miffed at what happened to Avalanche… but like I said, nice solid opening. Can’t wait to see what happens next.

And yes, I did buy the Babies variant… might get the Deadpool one if I can manage it.

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