Posts Tagged ‘Avengers’

ComicBookMovie – First Teaser For THE WOLVERINE Attached To G.I. JOE: RETALIATION – well, that settles it, guess I will be seeing GI Joe 2 in theaters

ComicBookMovie – Nightcrawler: The Latest Mutant Bryan Singer Is Teasing For X-MEN DAYS OF FUTURE PAST
“I don’t know. We’ll see. You know … we’ll see,” he teased. When pressed a little further he explained, “I don’t want to … sometimes you don’t want to say “yes” or “no” to something that may not be a “yes” or a “no,” or anything. I haven’t decided yet, a few things.”

BleedingCool – How To Write Comics And Graphic Novels by Dennis O’Neil #20

ComicBookMovie – Emily Bett Rickards To Become A Series Regular In ARROW’S Second Season – good, she is one of the brightest points of the show

ComicBookMovie – New Behind The Scenes Photo From MAN OF STEEL – possibly spoilerish

ComicBookMovie – Chloë Moretz Says There’s Romance For Hit-Girl In KICK-ASS 2
“There’s going to get a bit more romance, a much more grown up Mindy Macready. Someone who’s questioning themself and whether they are a villain, assassin or a vigilante and a hero. So there’s a lot of tormented inner self, it’s interesting.”

CinemaBlend – How The Avengers Made A Motion Capture Hulk And Snagged An Oscar Nomination

ComicBookMovie – Marvel Reintroduce Trading Cards For GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY [comic] Relaunch

CinemaBlend – Lawrence Kasdan Says He Will Start Fresh For His Star Wars Spin-Off Movie

i09 – So… the popularity graph for the name “Bruce” looks just like Batman

Twitter – Maurissa Tancharoen – S.H.I.E.L.D. plot wraps filming, wrap photo below – via CBM

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mark-miller-empire-onlineWith the success of Avengers, studios started to realize the benefit of having a singular ‘show runner’ as it where to oversee different movies that are all part of the same universe. This makes total sense and I’m all for it. So when Fox said they were putting Mark Miller in charge of their comic book properties I was supportive even though I didn’t know much about him other than I watched the Kick Ass movie.

After the past few months I’ve come to realize that Mark Miller really needs to just stop talking.

Recently he completely ditched the idea of making a Justice League movie.

“I actually think the big problem for them is the characters are just too out of date. The characters were created 75 years ago, even the newest major character was created 68 years ago, so they’re in a really weird time.”

Granted, characters like Wolverine, Rogue and Gambit were created in the 70s, 80s, and 90s (or there abouts if you want to get technical). But the core of the X-Men go back to the 60s. Like there is nothing weird about the time span between the 60s and 90s? Especially when compared to today.

Also, the DC characters have been rebooted several times in the past years in order to make them more ‘current’. Batman especially has shown in the Nolan movies that he is just as modern as any other character and he was created in 1939!

He goes on to say in that same interview:

“The actual logistics of each member of the Justice League is disastrous, and you put them all together and I think you get an excellent way of losing $200 million.”

justice_league_movie_cast

Five Main Characters – Lord of the Rings had how many?

Five Justice League members are too much but a group of at least five mutants all with their own equally different powers/backgrounds, not to mention DOFP will include old and young versions of said mutants, is okay?

“On the other hand I though the third film felt crowded, but then Singer is excellent at working with ensemble casts. So with this one [DOFP] I feel it is all fine. I have read the screenplay and it doesn’t feel rushed and it doesn’t feel like it is too many characters.”

So obviously he thinks it can work.

“X-Men in the Nineties was so convoluted in comic-book terms, and Bryan drove a knife through it and make it work [in X-Men 1] and simplified the whole thing.”

So maybe it’s just a 90s thing? Which would be odd since he says that JL won’t work cause it’s so old. Is there like a sweet spot then, a frame of years that only produce good comic book movies? Nope.

Millar then expresses no worries in how the film [Days of Future Past] is being handled, despite the heavy mythology. “I think as long as it’s done right.”

Oh, so not age, just how it’s done? Wouldn’t that apply to Justice League or is it just an X-Men thing? Nope.

“From what I’ve seen [of the Fantastic Four reboot] and from talking to him [director Josh Trank] – he and I have had dinner a couple of times and we talk quite regularly as well – he’s contemporarising it. I think he’s just making it work for the screen – he’s a great storyteller.”

I'm admittedly bad at math but I count more than five here, even if you take out Sabes and Toad.

I’m admittedly bad at math but I count more than five here, even if you take out Sabes and Toad.

So, Justice League is impossible to handle and contemporarize but X-Men and Fantastic Four are okay?

Oh, in the same article he compares FF to Chronicle and Alien… wha? He can make those kinds of comparisons but it’s impossible to do anything ‘new’ or ‘different’ with Justice League?

But really, the crux of his whole ‘the actual logistics just wouldn’t work’ idea is this: You are a paid creative consultant. If you were working for WB it would be your job to make it work, and you would make it work. That is what you are supposed to be doing and what you should be doing for Fox.

Case in point: Sentinels, the big, bulky, fiscally irresponsible, destined to be considered Transformers rip-off’s, purple robots.

Here he talks about them as being ‘cool’.

“I don’t really want to give too much away but the Sentinels are a big feature of this story. They will be cool and this will deliver on all of the teasers.”

Really? So yeah, you can make those robots cool but you can’t figure out how to make Aquaman talk under water? Oh wait, you did.

“Are they gonna talking telepathically?”

Just make sure your actors can emote and can do voice overs and it could work. Or, dunno, take the movie out of the water for most of it? You would think of something cause it’s what you’re paid to do. If, you know, you were being paid by WB, which you’re not, but I’m sure you’d be singing a different tune if you did.

And apparently I’m not the only person who thinks there is something a whole lot dodgy with Miller’s latest comments about WB’s Justice League movie.

Of course, that’s the movie version he’s talking about, as for the comics, well, he knows how he would have done the reboot. Which, yeah, I guess we’ve all had that moment of ‘man, I could do better’, but when you put it with everything else he’s said you can’t help but read it with such an arrogant tone.

Which is made all the more arrogant by this

“I just feel the exciting stuff that’s happening just now is creator owned.”

Umm, that’s kind of the opposite of what is going on with the X-Men and Fantastic Four movies as they are licensed by Fox… you know, the people who are paying you to make sure their movies are good.

But then, Miller’s getting several of his own properties off the ground as movies: Kick-Ass 2, Nemesis, Supercrooks and Superior and Secret Service. Seems like his job as ‘creative consult’ is working out very well for him personally. I’m not gonna begrudge the man getting his comics the film-treatment, but again, with his bashing of everyone else’s works, everything he says is tinted with a hugely arrogant and unattractive tone. Makes you wonder just how much he really cares about the X-Men and FF films.

Especially when he takes credit here and here for The Avengers movie, which, okay, fair enough, he’s happy for them…

“People have suggested we should feel ripped off, but we don’t own these characters. All we did was give them a lick of paint and come up with a story and the visuals. These are Marvel-owned characters and I have my own little empire with Millarworld so I’m genuinely just pleased to see all this on the big screen and wish them nothing but the best with it.”

But that praise is short lived because apparently the Avengers movies aren’t going to go far

“Where I think it’s going to be difficult is once you’ve done that thing of putting all those characters in one film…you know, it’s like having Harry Potter, James Bond and Spider-Man all in one movie. I think what’ll be difficult then is to try and top that because people want to see it get bigger.”

Well, just scrap the X-Men then, cause once you have an ensemble movie that’s it apparently. No one is going to want to see just an individual movie about their favorite super-hero, one of which they might not have realized was awesome until having seen them in Avengers. [note the sarcasm here]

Sorry Hawkeye, Ant-Man and Dr Strange beat you to it.

Sorry Hawkeye, no movie for you! Ant-Man and Dr Strange beat you to it. Story of your life, huh?

Seriously, how many people went back and watched Captain America and Thor after watching Avengers? Does he really think audiences don’t want to see their favorite characters in a more highlighted and individual setting? Tell that to all the Hawkeye fans begging to get him a movie.

Oh, but if you’re X-Men…

“The X-Men feels like a universe by itself; there’s so many characters and so many great potential spin-off characters.”

Basically, what I’m getting from Mark Miller is that only stuff he is involved in can work… everything else can’t?

I am really excited to see The Wolverine. I’m also waiting anxiously for more information onDays of Future Past because I think it could be epic. But every time Mark opens his mouth I suddenly get an overwhelming sense of dread, and not the cool Judge Dredd kind.

So please, Mark Miller, stop talking, especially if all you are going to say is backhanded compliments that are truly just insults.

3/ Third would have to be Dark Knight Rises. Controversial, I know, but I think this might be my favourite of all the Batman movies. It has its problems, especially Nolan’s reluctance to make Batman himself especially interesting, and the pay off with Bane SO anticlimactic after such a brilliant build up. But it’s got so many good moments and was so incredibly ambitious that I think it clobbers Avengers in terms of pure cinema. Avengers was a very fun popcorn movie with a lot of good jokes, but in terms of actual scale and depth I think Dark Knight rises to the top for Summer 2012 for me.

So, TDKR had a major character that was dull and no pay off but that was apparently better than Avengers.

Considering Miller’s role in upcoming comic book movies and major franchises, he really shouldn’t be going around putting down everyone else’s works just to make his look better. I think someone needs to give him a dictionary and open it to the word ‘tacky’… then let the movies speak for themselves.

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ComicBookMovie – Edgar Wright Talks ANT-MAN And Marvel Studios; “It’s A Big Effects Movie”
CinemaBlend – Edgar Wright Suggests Ant-Man Could Exist In An Unexpected Genre
“It’s a way of doing a superhero film within another genre. I wanted to tell an origin tale in a slightly different way. It’s part of the Marvel cinematic universe, but it also feels like its own piece.”

ComicBookMovie – THE AVENGERS Will Reunite To Present At The Oscars

ComicBookMovie – THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 2 Title And Synopsis Revealed; Colm Feore And Paul Giamatti Join Cast – a more detailed press release

io9 – Concept art shows what Paradise Island would have looked like in David E. Kelley’s Wonder Woman

ICv2 – Schanes Stepping Down at Diamond

io9 – HBO hires George R.R. Martin to make all the shows
“HBO has signed George R.R. Martin to a two-year deal which will allow him to continue as co-producer on Game of Thrones, but also let him develop and produce new shows and projects for the network.”

io9 – 10 Most Incompetent Space Captains in the Universe

Mr. Dark Knight Returns by ~seniorgoldenspork

 

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CinemaBlend – Cobie Smulders Could Return As Maria Hill In Joss Whedon’s S.H.I.E.L.D. – which makes sense seeing as she’d be much cheaper to get than Jackson or the actual Avengers.

ComicBookMovie – The 14th Annual Golden Tomato  Award Winners – Avengers got some top honors.

ComicBookMovie – Ten Actors Who Should Be Considered To Play THE FLASH – I like Hedlund or Cooper on this list.

ComicBookMoive – Jon Favreau On Not Directing  IRON MAN 3

ClubJade.net – Episode VII: Abrams says snagging Star Wars is “an incredible thing;” Could release date get pushed back?

Entertainment Weekly – ‘Star Trek’ Meets ‘Star Wars’: Artists’ Renderings

''Star Wars on deck'' by Kevin Lingenfelser

”Star Wars on deck” by Kevin Lingenfelser

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Agent M Loves Tacos – I have a series of videos about my time sneaking around the set of Marvel’s S.H.I.E.L.D. show set.

CinemaBlend – Doctor Strange, Ant-Man Confirmed As Marvel Phase Three Films

ComicBookMovie – Rose Byrne Reveals Whether She  Has Been Asked To Return For X-MEN: DAYS OF FUTURE PAST
“As it turns out, she’s yet another cast member from X-Men: First Class  who is waiting on a call from Fox. However, while it was a little surprising  that January Jones hasn’t heard anything, the story arc of Byrne’s character was  wrapped up pretty neatly after her mind was wiped by Charles Xavier at the close  of the movie.”

ComicBookMovie – Brian Bendis Comments On  Director James Gunn’s GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY Rewrite
“I’m not allowed to say anything specific — it’s a great script. It really  turned out great. James Gunn did a really great job. I read the last draft — “Oh  please, don’t suck, because I’ve already invested part of my life into this — and I was like, “Oh, this is great! This is going to be a lot of fun!”

io9 – Loki’s alien army could have been a hell of a lot more metal in Avengers

Agent M Loves Tacos – Below is a picture he took of a S.H.I.E.L.D. desk… they are really going high-tech, aren’t they…

Agent M Loves Taco picture of S.H.I.E.L.D. tv series desk

Agent M Loves Taco picture of S.H.I.E.L.D. tv series desk

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Justice League Movie CastIt’s not been confirmed but the line up for the new Justice League movie Warners Bros has slated for a 2015 will be: Batman, Superman, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, and The Flash.

This seems likely as while there have been others in the Justice League at various times, these five are perhaps the most notable, which is a good thing seeing as there is no word yet if Henry Cavill and Ryan Reynolds will be reprising their roles as Superman and Green Lantern. We already know Christian Bale will not be reprising his role as Batman as the JL movie will be removed from Nolan’s Batman universe and Batman could be rebooted as early as 2017. So, assuming Cavill and Reynolds are back, then their movies would be the ‘set up’ or ‘phase one’ of the DC Film-Verse which would culminate in the Justice League movie, but three out of five major characters will not have an origin movie.

Good thing these characters are recognizable… but are they really anymore so than the Avengers cast before the ‘Phase One – Avengers Assembled’ films were released:

The Avengers poster by Mondo

The Avengers poster by Mondo

Batman and Superman are basically Iron Man. It could be argued that when Iron Man came out he wasn’t that recognizable beyond people knowing his name but the first movie catapulted his status to that of Bats and Supes. Phase One hadn’t really started yet so that movie counts. When Phase One really got going, you’d have to have been living under a rock not to have heard of Iron Man.

Wonder Woman is pretty much The Hulk. Both had wildly successful tv series, but ever since they’ve had issues with getting a decent movie off the ground and/or getting decent people to play them. They’re fairly recognizable characters though no one can name a single person in these character’s rogue’s gallery or their origin story beyond a few tidbits, unless they were already fans.

Green Lantern is Captain America. You can’t not have heard of these guys if you poked your nose anywhere around the comic-verse, but other than having one crappy movie (Captain America in 1990, Green Lantern in 2011) and being in other character’s animated shows, they haven’t gotten much love outside the comic-verse.

Flash, well, he really is Thor. They are two characters who people have heard of but get confused with other characters (mythology, Flash Gordan, Venom (true story!)). Also, they’re two characters who have had tv shows and movies no one remembers.

As for Black Widow and Hawkeye, they will be represented by whatever little-known-outside-the-comics characters end up getting picked for the supporting cast. They will then see skyrocketed comic book sales, their own solo titles, and possibly their own movie.

But again, only two of these characters (possibly one if they want to strike the tragedy that was Green Lantern off the record) will have introduction/origin movies. Will this help or hinder the effort?

Let’s look at the Phase One movies, here is a breakdown of how much money they made at the box office thanks to Box Office Mojo:

2008Iron Man – 318mil domestic – 585mil total (for comparison)
2008Incredible Hulk – 135mil domestic – 263mil total
2010Iron Man 2 – 312mil domestic – 624 total
2011Captain America – 177mil domestic – 367mil total
2011Thor – 181mil domestic – 449mil total

2012Avengers – 623mil domestic – 1.5billion total

Not only did the individual origin movies not come anywhere near Iron Man (save maybe Thor’s total take), even Iron Man fell into the shadow of the Avengers film itself.

Why is this so? Was Avengers just that much better than all the other movies?

While it was quality, you also have to take into account that Avengers pulled together fans of every single one of those characters. Those who watched Iron Man may not have cared to see Thor. Those who watched Captain American possibly didn’t care about The Incredible Hulk.

So the question now becomes… how are the sequels going to do? How many people who didn’t care about Thor and Loki went out and watched Thor after they watched Avengers? How many of those will be going to see Thor: The Dark World when it comes out? We won’t really know for sure until we see the numbers.

Superman's_Profile_picture by ~Agustinus

Superman’s_Profile_picture by ~Agustinus

How does this affect the Justice League movie?

Avengers may have needed to let you get to know the other characters because it couldn’t rely on the draw of Iron Man and comic readers alone, but Batman and Superman are guaranteed to be a big draw. Not only do they have masses of individual fans (which goes well beyond the comics) who want to see them, but they want to see them interact. No matter the quality of the movie, we can expect to see very large numbers out in mass for opening weekend.

But what if the Justice League movie is terrible?

Then back to the drawing board with no money lost on origin films that went nowhere, but also, like Green Lantern, it might be years before they touch on the character ever again. Though they could go the route of making tv shows like Arrow and Amazon which is in pre-pre-production. They have a lot of options, only a few we’d actually like to see.

But what if the movie is actually really good?

Those who went to go see Bats and Supes are introduced to three other characters that, if they are done right, will basically have the ‘Hawkeye effect’ and people will want to see them in their own movie. This means when WB sinks money into a WW movie with the same actress, in the same universe, then they are guaranteed better returns than if they tried to go solo before Justice League, an idea that they had but seems to have been dropped.

The only issue would be that they couldn’t do prequel movies because that would be annoying, but it would be easy enough to put their origins in there as either a quick 15 minutes at the beginning or parceled throughout the film (as long as it’s done right).

So, is it a smart move by Warner Brothers to work backwards?

They’ve already been accused of trying to ride on the back of the Avengers box office smash… but then Batman and Superman are literally much bigger characters in their own right and could carry a team-up movie with so much ease it should be criminal. The fact they haven’t done it before now should be punished as a capital offence. Maybe it took a kick in the pants for them to get around to it but it was a long time coming.

As for GL, WW, and Flash… I think the fact that Green Lantern made 116mil domestic, half of that on opening weekend before the news came down of its quality, proves that the audience is there for these movies, maybe not 300mil domestic like Iron Man right now, but they are there. But really, as long as they start putting out good films, they will be able to hold against Disney/Marvel, if not surpass them… but with a rash of really bad superhero movies in Green Lantern and Superman Returns, and the retirement of the Nolan-verse Batman movies, they need a shining beacon of ‘yes, yes we can make good movies!’.

Man of Steel logoWe do have Man of Steel coming up later this year, but will that be enough? We were already let down by a Superman movie and so wary eyes are on this film. If it’s a great film then it will definitely help the cause, if it terrible then at least it could be kicked under the rug.

In the end, the Justice League movie is the crux of the entire DC film franchise. Supes and Bats will always have their place on screen but if Justice League fails then it will take everything else down with it. If it succeeds then it is a literal blank check for Warner Bros to bring all our favorite DC characters to life.

So yes, this really is the best move by Warner Bros. Marvel’s Avengers had a fairly blank slate to start with while Justice League has a lot of recent history with most of the characters, either through failed movies or the failure to make a movie. They need a reset button, they need a point to start, and this is it.

Granted, the reset button does look an awful lot like the self destruct button… but that can be entertaining in its own right.

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CinemaBlend – Jim Carrey And Adam Sandler Reportedly Eyed For Marvel’s Guardians Of The Galaxy – possible voice roles?

ComicBookMovie – Kevin Feige Discusses Happy  Hogan’s Key Role In IRON MAN 3

ComingSoon.net – Marvel’s S.H.I.E.L.D. Begins Filming, Launches Social Media Accounts

SuperHeroHype – Deadshot Will Return on Arrow! – but… he died? he had an arrow… to the face!

ComicBookMovie – ARROW Enlists DOCTOR WHO Actress  To Portray Dinah Lance – I wonder if she’ll have any scenes with John Barrowman? Not likely due to the characters they play.

BleedingCool – What Man Of Steel Did To Earn Its PG-13

i09 – 10 Best Gonzo Science Fiction Movies in the Whole Crazy Universe – So, I have half of these movies memorized… what does that say about me?

ComicBookMovie – THE AVENGERS: Alternate Designs  For The Helicarrier & Iron Man Mark VII Armor

CinemaBlend – Princess Bride T-Shirt Terrifies Airline Passengers – when good pop culture doens’t happen to good people

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